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Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
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Author:  hausen [ Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
A prominent side-quest in this game is to collect stamps from NPCs. From pandas to "puzzle moles" to common townsfolk any npc might have one to add to the player's collection. There are 60 in total, and many of them are only available under certain conditions and scenes - failing to collect them then will make them permanently unavailable from that point on.

While collecting stamps, for the first 50 there's a "Quiz Master" for every 10 you collect. He'll pose three questions to you. And when you collect the last 10, there's five more questions asked. So in total, there are 20 questions. The game's strat guide even mentions a postal address for someone to write and send his answers to, in order to get a nice gift from the developers!

Well, we're some 23 years too late for that, but atleast we have the quiz to ponder. Some of these questions concern in-game events, others ask for historic facts. I'll put the quiz here under a spoiler tag. Let me know if my translations are off (number 17 I couldn't understand). See for fun how many of these you know the answers for.
Spoiler! :
01 What is the name of the large river that flows through the center of China?
マップの中央を流れる、大きな河の名は？

02 What was the capital city of Zhou dynasty called?
今や名ばかりとなった、周王朝の首都の名は？

03 What were the four words on the War Scroll as decoded by Zhuangzi?
湖に住む荘子仙人が解読した巻物の内容を漢字4文字で書け。

04 What was the capital city of the State of Yan called?
どこかに関西なまりの街があったようだが。どこの街？

05 What was the name of the Japanese period concurrent to Warring States era China?
この戦国時代の頃日本ではどんな時代だった？

06 Zhao, Han and Wei used to form a single state. What was it called?
趙・韓・魏は、もとは一つの国だった。その国名は？

07 Party member Lin is a famous person in history. What is his full name?
仲間のリンは、歴史上の有名な人物です。誰の事？

08 How many travelers were there at the first ferry station?
最初の渡し場には旅人は何人いた？

09 How many ramen shops are there in Handan?
邯鄲の街にラーメン屋は何軒？

10 What is the letter type used in town signposts called?
街のお店にかかっている看板の文字の書体を何という？

11 Which one of the Sages has a hat on their head?
たくさん出てくる仙人の中で頭に笠をのせていたのは誰？

12 Which school of philosophy was Menzi (Mencius) a follower of?
燕の都薊で、学校の先生をしていた孟子仙人は誰の弟子？

13 What did Ji Cheng shoot with his bow?
弓の名人紀昌が使った技は？

14 Who was the author of the famous book ”Records of the Grand Historian”?
史記の作者は誰？

15 Besides Yellow River, what is the second largest river in China called?
中国には 、黄河と並ぶ大きな河がもう一つあるが、その名は？

16 What saying is associated with the story of Lin showing horse bones to the King of Yan?
リンが馬の骨を王様に胃わせた話から連想される言葉は？

17 (I don't know how to translate this one)
陽翟の街の武器屋と防具屋のセリフから連想される言葉は？

18 What is the word associated with the story of Lin returning the Jade intact to Zhao?
リンの活躍で和氏の臂を無事に持ち帰った事が語源となったある言葉は？

19 Jing Ke was sent to assassinate Qin Shi Huang, but by whose orders?
ケイカが奏の始皇帝の暗殺を企てたのは本当の話だが 、依頼した人は？

20 This Yue minister was also known as Tao Zhugong. What was his real name?
陶朱公の印、というアイテムの陶朱公とは誰の事？
Author:  Wildbill [ Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
Still plodding along instead of starting over. I have missed two stamps that are lost to me. One is the night guard in Linzi.

Just landed at far north cave by Great Wall. Time to
Spoiler! :
lift curse from Damascus Sword.
Author:  Wildbill [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
hausen wrote:
A prominent side-quest in this game is to collect stamps from NPCs. From pandas to "puzzle moles" to common townsfolk any npc might have one to add to the player's collection. There are 60 in total, and many of them are only available under certain conditions and scenes - failing to collect them then will make them permanently unavailable from that point on.

While collecting stamps, for the first 50 there's a "Quiz Master" for every 10 you collect. He'll pose three questions to you. And when you collect the last 10, there's five more questions asked. So in total, there are 20 questions. The game's strat guide even mentions a postal address for someone to write and send his answers to, in order to get a nice gift from the developers!

Well, we're some 23 years too late for that, but atleast we have the quiz to ponder. Some of these questions concern in-game events, others ask for historic facts. I'll put the quiz here under a spoiler tag. Let me know if my translations are off (number 17 I couldn't understand). See for fun how many of these you know the answers for.
Spoiler! :
01 What is the name of the large river that flows through the center of China?
マップの中央を流れる、大きな河の名は？

02 What was the capital city of Zhou dynasty called?
今や名ばかりとなった、周王朝の首都の名は？

03 What were the four words on the War Scroll as decoded by Zhuangzi?
湖に住む荘子仙人が解読した巻物の内容を漢字4文字で書け。

04 What was the capital city of the State of Yan called?
どこかに関西なまりの街があったようだが。どこの街？

05 What was the name of the Japanese period concurrent to Warring States era China?
この戦国時代の頃日本ではどんな時代だった？

06 Zhao, Han and Wei used to form a single state. What was it called?
趙・韓・魏は、もとは一つの国だった。その国名は？

07 Party member Lin is a famous person in history. What is his full name?
仲間のリンは、歴史上の有名な人物です。誰の事？

08 How many travelers were there at the first ferry station?
最初の渡し場には旅人は何人いた？

09 How many ramen shops are there in Handan?
邯鄲の街にラーメン屋は何軒？

10 What is the letter type used in town signposts called?
街のお店にかかっている看板の文字の書体を何という？

11 Which one of the Sages has a hat on their head?
たくさん出てくる仙人の中で頭に笠をのせていたのは誰？

12 Which school of philosophy was Menzi (Mencius) a follower of?
燕の都薊で、学校の先生をしていた孟子仙人は誰の弟子？

13 What did Ji Cheng shoot with his bow?
弓の名人紀昌が使った技は？

14 Who was the author of the famous book ”Records of the Grand Historian”?
史記の作者は誰？

15 Besides Yellow River, what is the second largest river in China called?
中国には 、黄河と並ぶ大きな河がもう一つあるが、その名は？

16 What saying is associated with the story of Lin showing horse bones to the King of Yan?
リンが馬の骨を王様に胃わせた話から連想される言葉は？

17 (I don't know how to translate this one)
陽翟の街の武器屋と防具屋のセリフから連想される言葉は？

18 What is the word associated with the story of Lin returning the Jade intact to Zhao?
リンの活躍で和氏の臂を無事に持ち帰った事が語源となったある言葉は？

19 Jing Ke was sent to assassinate Qin Shi Huang, but by whose orders?
ケイカが奏の始皇帝の暗殺を企てたのは本当の話だが 、依頼した人は？

20 This Yue minister was also known as Tao Zhugong. What was his real name?
陶朱公の印、というアイテムの陶朱公とは誰の事？
Spoiler! :
Question #17 - I worked it this way:

Here is your script:

17 (I don't know how to translate this one)
陽翟の街の武器屋と防具屋のセリフから連想される言葉は？

Here is what the machine said concerning the above (refined by me)

"What is the word reminiscent [of] the weapons [and armor] shop[s] in the city of [Ji in] Yang (sic - read: Yan Kingdom) and [their owners]?"

Here is a string from the game. I got the answer from a Japanese game site.

.POINTER = $10079A
; Offset: $12386E

; 生徒　：第１７問
; 陽濯の街の武器屋と防具屋の
; セリフから連想される言葉は？
Student: No. 17 - Weapons
and Armor shop talk in Ji...
What's the operative word?[end-4]
; Answer: Contradiction

Based upon:

.POINTER = $100238
; Offset: $10D728

; 武器屋：バ一ゲン中でっせ。
Weapons Shop Owner: Yo, arms
are more critical than armor,
so step right up![end-4]

and

.POINTER = $100242
; Offset: $10D7D0

; 防具屋：ホンマ。防具だけは
; 　ケチったらあかんよ。
Armor Shop Owner: He's wrong!
Without the best protection,
you're dead![end-4]

I made it work with that answer - Contradiction.
Author:  hausen [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
Oh dummy me! I read that city name all the while as 洛陽 (Luoyang) and their merchs have nothing special to their dialogue. However while you got close in your translation it's referring to 陽翟 (Yangzhai) which is Han's capital, not Ji/Yan. The dialogue in merchants between Yangzhai and Ji seems very similar it actually makes the point either way. Thanks for the clarification 8-)

According to the guidebook they were to send copies of CDs with arranged music as prize draws for sending these quiz answers to the dev team in 1995. I'm curious if any of these CDs were handed out in the end. It'd be cool to find some collectors having them, I'd certainly buy one. Between the SFC cart and box, manual, strategy guide, a game poster ad, and even one tome of Watson's english translated 'Shiji' sitting on my desk, I'm amassing some hefty collection of junk related to this game :mrgreen:
Author:  Wildbill [ Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Stamp sidequest Quiz *SPOILERS*
hausen wrote:
Oh dummy me! I read that city name all the while as 洛陽 (Luoyang) and their merchs have nothing special to their dialogue. However while you got close in your translation it's referring to 陽翟 (Yangzhai) which is Han's capital, not Ji/Yan. The dialogue in merchants between Yangzhai and Ji seems very similar it actually makes the point either way. Thanks for the clarification 8-)

According to the guidebook they were to send copies of CDs with arranged music as prize draws for sending these quiz answers to the dev team in 1995. I'm curious if any of these CDs were handed out in the end. It'd be cool to find some collectors having them, I'd certainly buy one. Between the SFC cart and box, manual, strategy guide, a game poster ad, and even one tome of Watson's english translated 'Shiji' sitting on my desk, I'm amassing some hefty collection of junk related to this game :mrgreen:
Normally, we must employ numerous localization "tricks" to make these ubiquitous quiz show features work in games. I recall a traveler in Ji, the current site of Peking, musing about strange dialects assaulting his ears, but I'll mosey on over to Yangzhai, re-translate the shop there, and see if any "contradictions" I might have missed entered the plot. Most of the shops are "Hi, buy, equip, bye, later". That makes it easy.
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